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  1. #1
    Hooligan
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    Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Hi All, My Akrapovic SS down pipes are showing sign of corrosion so I'm looking into getting them coated with a chrome colored ceramic, going down to see some samples soon (Embee performance in Santa Ana, CA). The guy said they also do copper coating to the inside of the pipes to reduce heat(?). Just wondering if anyone has any experience or suggestions on the subject. They also have Ti and other colors. They do lots of go-carts and race cars so they have a good rep. The cost sounds like a little over $200.

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    Two wheeled FREAK
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Why not just clean the pipes?

    Toilet bowl cleaner and or green scotch brite work great on stainless.

    Ceramic coating works great - color choice up to you.

    The copper inside the pipes would make sense if the pipe was new, not sure how they would do that with a used pipe. Maybe they have a way to clean it before ? Have seen it applied to turbo manifolds and housings for cars.




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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve516 View Post
    Why not just clean the pipes?

    Toilet bowl cleaner and or green scotch brite work great on stainless.

    Ceramic coating works great - color choice up to you.

    The copper inside the pipes would make sense if the pipe was new, not sure how they would do that with a used pipe. Maybe they have a way to clean it before ? Have seen it applied to turbo manifolds and housings for cars.




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    Should have mentioned I've already been through all this cleaning. I have to remove the pipes to clean them good and it takes hours but as soon as they are re-installed and ridden the corrosion comes back and it's getting worse. I was told it's not quality SS. Just wondering how the chrome ceramic coating looks.

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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Jet-Hot Coat, versus stock

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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    A local Rexer recently had a Muzzy done locally. Looks like the above, very nice.
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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by SPORTSMAN View Post
    Jet-Hot Coat, versus stock

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    Thanks for the pics. Not like chrome but pretty nice. I'm also looking at creakote, seems like a durable ceramic coating. Tomorrow I'll go to the shop and look at some samples they have in the showroom.

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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by avtech2 View Post
    A local Rexer recently had a Muzzy done locally. Looks like the above, very nice.
    Local to AZ? I wonder if I can find a chrome plating shop in AZ. Might be less costly than CA.

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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Have you polished with Mothers after cleaning? Mine has 140k miles on it and still looks great. A local Rexer bead blasted his, it removed the smooth appearance and hides any staining.
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    avtech3d
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    He had it done at Affordable Powdercoat here in AZ.

    After seeing his, I want to get one done.
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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by ZRX Mitch View Post
    Have you polished with Mothers after cleaning? Mine has 140k miles on it and still looks great. A local Rexer bead blasted his, it removed the smooth appearance and hides any staining.
    I have not tried Mother's but have used probably half dozen other products and techniques. I have removed all the corrosion and it comes right back. Here is a pic, if you zoom in you can see what it looks like.
    I would really like a shiny look. Looking into:
    Chrome
    Ceramic / Creakote
    Jet-Hot

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  11. #11
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    I do not believe real chrome plating will survive the heat
    Plus the road wear will get through the chrome fairly quickly I would think and get to the nickel pretty quickly
    fwiw I think you should consider something like the jet coat or similar that has abetter chances surviving rocks and grit
    my 2 cents
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie Phatt View Post
    I do not believe real chrome plating will survive the heat
    Plus the road wear will get through the chrome fairly quickly I would think and get to the nickel pretty quickly
    fwiw I think you should consider something like the jet coat or similar that has abetter chances surviving rocks and grit
    my 2 cents
    jp
    Thanks for the insight.

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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    I have exact same issue with my Akro, but mine is over 15yrs old, S/S reacts differently than other metals, anything contaminant that blocks the outher surface from oxygen could cause those spots, dust, oil, fingerprints, even water evaporating on the hot pipes leaving water stains, polishing at least once a week is a good solution

    I do at least one detailed cleaning a year with Kaboom bathroom cleaner, green scothbrite, steel wool, etc., my favorite polish is Blue Magic, even though is kinda a PIA to apply, a good length of old panty hose or leggins work great when wrapped around pipes and pulled back/fort to apply polish, it reaches tight areas and saves skinning your knuckles !!

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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen#212 View Post
    I have exact same issue with my Akro, but mine is over 15yrs old, S/S reacts differently than other metals, anything contaminant that blocks the outher surface from oxygen could cause those spots, dust, oil, fingerprints, even water evaporating on the hot pipes leaving water stains, polishing at least once a week is a good solution

    I do at least one detailed cleaning a year with Kaboom bathroom cleaner, green scothbrite, steel wool, etc., my favorite polish is Blue Magic, even though is kinda a PIA to apply, a good length of old panty hose or leggins work great when wrapped around pipes and pulled back/fort to apply polish, it reaches tight areas and saves skinning your knuckles !!
    Yeah, I know the pantie hose reach tight areas.
    All good tips, thanks.

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    In Charge of McGov Only
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    I sent my Muzzy to jet-hot in Arizona, they did a great job, but it was expensive. It did hold up very well and looked very nice.

    I've also painted my own, looked great, not as spectacular maybe as Jet-hot, but at a tenth the price I didn't care.

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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Pete View Post
    I sent my Muzzy to jet-hot in Arizona, they did a great job, but it was expensive. It did hold up very well and looked very nice.

    I've also painted my own, looked great, not as spectacular maybe as Jet-hot, but at a tenth the price I didn't care.
    Iím curious about the paint and colour you used. VHT? Black?

    My Kerker is showing itís age and Iíd like to refinish it this winter including the pipes. Dreading the cost of professional coatings. Iíll be keeping an eye on this thread for info.

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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    These guys said they would ceramic coat for under $300 but that was over the phone. Keep in mind the muffler is carbon so don't have to add that. Tomorrow I'll ride to their shop and look at the samples. They have many colors, I would like a chrome look but not sure the chrome ceramic will be shiny enough. He said he does his own Harley's in black so I'll be able to see that.

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    In Charge of McGov Only
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Wan2Fly View Post
    These guys said they would ceramic coat for under $300 but that was over the phone. Keep in mind the muffler is carbon so don't have to add that. Tomorrow I'll ride to their shop and look at the samples. They have many colors, I would like a chrome look but not sure the chrome ceramic will be shiny enough. He said he does his own Harley's in black so I'll be able to see that.

    http://www.embeeperformance.com/home...y/#prettyPhoto


    Cool, if yours comes out good, I'll get mine done too. That's half the cost that Jet-hot costs.

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    Hawaiian Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    What did you used to clean your pipes? It takes me longer to remove and install the exhaust system then it does to clean them.
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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Wekoli View Post
    What did you used to clean your pipes? It takes me longer to remove and install the exhaust system then it does to clean them.
    Can't remember everything but:
    Barkeepers Friend
    Steel wool
    Scotch brite
    Castrol De-greaser
    Greased Lightning Cleaner de-greaser
    Simple Green
    Rubbing compound

    I can get it to look like a shadow but it comes right back. Thing is, it's not dirt or grime it's corrosion so the chrome or whatever surface treatment is gone in those spots so it comes right back.

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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    I narrowed it down to these colors. I'm leaning toward tungsten.

    Cost is $225 including copper inside the tubes. My muffler is carbon so no muffler coating. Had a tour of the shop, they have a lot of aftermarket customers and do a lot of business.


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  23. #23
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    I'm going to paint mine again this winter but more thoroughly
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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Cundalini View Post
    I'm going to paint mine again this winter but more thoroughly
    What do you use? Whatís your process? Iím contemplating this also.
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    FWIW If you have one of the later REX's with the nice metallic grey frames like Bob 05's I wold say Tugstan 2nd choice for me would be Titainium
    I do not think the Black is Black enough and the silver to light compared to the Ti
    But it is not my bike

    Do you clear cote after cleaning and polishing the corrosion away That may help
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    Hooligan
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    Re: Ceramic Coating on SS Exhaust

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie Phatt View Post
    FWIW If you have one of the later REX's with the nice metallic grey frames like Bob 05's I wold say Tugstan 2nd choice for me would be Titainium
    I do not think the Black is Black enough and the silver to light compared to the Ti
    But it is not my bike

    Do you clear cote after cleaning and polishing the corrosion away That may help
    Yeah I agree with your picks. If the black was glossy or mat and real black it would look good but it's in-between. Almost like the Ti if it were smooth, maybe it can be smoothed with some wet/dry. Think I'm going to like the Tungsten.


 

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