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    New Vette

    Didnt see it posted. Reveal starts at 57:00 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0AbsgvRwnU
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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by eagles1539 View Post
    Didnt see it posted. Reveal starts at 57:00 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0AbsgvRwnU
    Design Dude ".....to make an exotic SUPERCAR version of the Corvette...." Well...............it does favor, oh, you know, about 6 different models of Ferrari.

    But I'm all about it. I'm glad that they're taking a whole new line with the C8. Now let's see how it does around a known track with known 'Vette times.

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    Re: New Vette

    The mid engine Corvette was always Duntov's dream, and he still pursued it until he departed the planet in 1996.. Rumors of an unconventional Vette would circulate heavy, and concept cars would surface give or take every ten years.
    Technically, the previous generation was already a mid engined car, since the engine was behind the front axle qnd the driver. Like an AMG GT, the transmission/ axle were a single unit in the rear.

    "Although the official explanation of the DNF was a failure of a rear suspension bushing after only 23 laps of racing, driver John Fitch’s feet were being cooked by the eight uninsulated exhaust pipes located in close proximity to the magnesium firewall and floor panels.

    The inherent advantages of locating the engine near the middle of the car just ahead of the drive wheels were not lost on Arkus-Duntov. In the 1930s, he witnessed the mid-engine Auto Unions occasionally beat Mercedes-Benz racers with traditional powertrain layouts. Also, a mid-engine Cooper T43 driven by Jack Brabham showed promise at the 1957 Monaco Grand Prix."

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    Re: New Vette

    Started to build mine (dreamer and all), although the configuration tool is backed up. Couldn't change anything but color. Suppose to start under 60000 or around it.

    [URL="https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?carline=corvette&modelyear=2020&brand=chevrolet&language=en&country=US&channel=b2c"]https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?carline=corvette&modelyear=2020&brand=chevrolet&language=en&country=US&channel=b2c[/URL

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    Re: New Vette

    I think it's fantastic. I expected starting prices in the low $100g's so for Chevy to drop this base at $60g's is, to me, unbelievable.

    Can't wait to see some road tests.
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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Spectreman View Post
    I think it's fantastic. I expected starting prices in the low $100g's so for Chevy to drop this base at $60g's is, to me, unbelievable.

    Can't wait to see some road tests.
    Lee


    And some comparable track times.
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    New Vette

    Is it still a pushrod V8? If yes, that's AWESOME!!!

    I'm digging this C8 a lot!
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    Re: New Vette

    At $60k that's incredible!! Working on that thing will be a bitch. I can see the possibility of one in my future. Imagine when they put the ZR1 engine in that chassis in a few years
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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by AV80R View Post
    Is it still a pushrod V8? If yes, that's AWESOME!!!

    I'm digging this C8 a lot!
    I'm sure it is a push rod motor. I have a close friend at church that is getting ready to retire and has worked at GM for more than 35 years and is in the suspension development. When I first got to know him I asked him when GM was going to get serious and drop the push rod motor for the Corvette and go to 32 valve overhead cam motor. Boy was I chastised. They are very proud of the horsepower, torque and reliability they have achieved with that motor design. Now that it is a mid engine design I'm sure it can't be long. I have seen quite few under wraps running around on the street since I live about 10 miles from the proving grounds.

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    Re: New Vette

    I believe they discuss the motor setup here if you haven't seen it yet.

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    Re: New Vette

    It's a game changer

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    Re: New Vette

    I fear the 60k vette will be like a stock HD....strippy

    After Mom passed I test drove a 2013 vette ..it was base model, it felt unstable at 100mph i. A double lane change ..azz end felt like it wanted to break out

    The unwanted base model may be 60k, but I would imagine something you want to spend money on will be 70k or more ...we shall see

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    Re: New Vette

    That's the most beautiful car made in a long time. I would love to have one !

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    Re: New Vette

    Played around on Chevy's designer. Here's how I'd order mine

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    Re: New Vette

    I believe I read it is the same 6.2L the Camaro SS has but they tweaked it for a few more ponnies and umph

    at 60k it must be strippy and a possible buyers remorse imho

    They announced there will be many models of it and of course the finest will be approx. $100k or more, as was reported before the jaw dropping 60k buy in entry level , a Z anything will be a bunch more $ from what I have been reading about them

    no one wants the base Corvette from my experience test driving a base corvette - it has a nice look and good engine but it lacks what makes it wow - that makes it damn near necessary to go up the ladder to the Z level for 5-10k more than base model

    Base model is for the look at me in a corvette so it seems .. to enjoy it, it takes a Z model at least unless they really did make them affordable for volume sales

    - one article I read said Corvette may partner with Cadillac to offer a corvette escalade or ?? Corvette Cadillacs - they are thinking to spread the cost over many vehicles to offset the loss or small profit on the base vettes

    It is a sexy beast but I do believe the 60k is Bait n Switch

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    New Vette

    Not sure if this is still true, but years ago the majority of Corvette buyers are women, and the majority of cars sold were automatics. The base model will fulfill a lot of buyers missions.

    Most buyers don't care about buying a Z06 that can perform at speed...they just want to look and sound cool from stop light to stop light next to other cars. I think this C8 in base model guide will certainly fit that bill nicely!

    Doesn't get more American than that.

    The more I look at it, the more I love the lines.
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    Re: New Vette

    Actually there another big change, no more manual shift transmission on retail models, dual clutch 8 speed manual DCT, a 1st on a Corvette. Also 1st American muscle/sports car produced without a manual transmission option.
    Only posers(millenials) will buy the 60k model
    Obviously better than buying a 6 cylinder Camaro a proper American muscle car should have a V8 with pushrods !!, IMO

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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by ZRXFriedrich View Post
    I fear the 60k vette will be like a stock HD....strippy

    After Mom passed I test drove a 2013 vette ..it was base model, it felt unstable at 100mph i. A double lane change ..azz end felt like it wanted to break out

    The unwanted base model may be 60k, but I would imagine something you want to spend money on will be 70k or more ...we shall see
    You were fine. I've seen base Vettes at track days,they hold their own against many more expensive cars.
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    Re: New Vette

    Some good info here: https://www.autoblog.com/2019/07/18/...tte-c8-reveal/

    - As stated, NO Manual trans, DCT auto.
    - Engine is a variant of the current C7 LT1 engine as a dry sump.

    In addition, friend of a friend supposedly in the know (GM employee) stated that in 1-2 years will see a twin turbo variant that will be the ZR1 with 4 digit power numbers.

    So far a fan of the technology, but not of the look....

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    Re: New Vette

    Visually it is one tall, cold drink of water, that is to say it is exquisite...

    GM is mighty proud of the power plant and tranny, and rightly so. A normally aspirated super car, what a concept... love it!

    Grand Slam!!!!!

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    Re: New Vette

    Ferrari called and wants their styling back.
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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by zrx_mattboy View Post
    Ferrari called and wants their styling back.
    So evidently a used Ferrari 458 cost $60k.....

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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by eddy21 View Post
    You were fine. I've seen base Vettes at track days,they hold their own against many more expensive cars.
    I was fine at that speed but it was base model, I don't think I woulda been fine too much faster , but cars are not bikes, they float in lane changes a bit
    - the next model above that has better suspension from what I have read and they were approx. $5k more - why bother with a base model ?

    … I coulda bought it and upgraded it ...guy was selling reasonable due to whisky bumps on both bumpers/cracked paint and the targa top has been placed against rear pillar while opening hatch to set it down, so the paint had a nice little counter of the number of times the top has been off chipped into the paint - maybe it was the best deal because of low buy in and make it nice over time ..

    but the weird thing I couldn't get past was location of the shifter

    - it was at an angle of 30-40 degrees slanted off center toward the driver - which was the 1st time I saw that in anything and it is a narrow gate shifter with a medium throw - too ez to go from 2nd to 5th or 1st - but the clutch was nice & it was good enough visibility

    New vette is almost sold out I read on the google today - people must like it, as I do from what I have seen and read - it seems to be a collectible in 30 -40 yrs !

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    Re: New Vette

    I would say, "All that and still a pushrod motor", but I have a version of that motor in my sedan and it's a beast!

    That being said, a high RPM OHC 4V motor would be pretty cool for a change. I don't think the Corvette has had one since the limited run LT-5 back in the 90's
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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacmedic View Post
    I would say, "All that and still a pushrod motor", but I have a version of that motor in my sedan and it's a beast!

    That being said, a high RPM OHC 4V motor would be pretty cool for a change. I don't think the Corvette has had one since the limited run LT-5 back in the 90's
    Is really more than "All that and still a pushrod motor" is another way to say american muscle car, the LT5 was really kinda a big change for the Corvette faithfull, had foreign engineering and assembled by some boat guys, was not an in house product

    kinda like when Harley D put a not so great German engine in the VROD

    Some interesting read on LT5 http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...ould-have-been

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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen#212 View Post
    Is really more than "All that and still a pushrod motor" is another way to say american muscle car, the LT5 was really kinda a big change for the Corvette faithfull, had foreign engineering and assembled by some boat guys, was not an in house product

    kinda like when Harley D put a not so great German engine in the VROD

    Some interesting read on LT5 http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...ould-have-been
    Or when Toyota puts a body/interior on BMW drivetrain/chassis and calls it a Supra.



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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by TGHW View Post
    Or when Toyota puts a body/interior on BMW drivetrain/chassis and calls it a Supra.



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    Re: New Vette - Almost Sold Out???

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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen#212 View Post
    Is really more than "All that and still a pushrod motor" is another way to say american muscle car, the LT5 was really kinda a big change for the Corvette faithfull, had foreign engineering and assembled by some boat guys, was not an in house product

    kinda like when Harley D put a not so great German engine in the VROD

    Some interesting read on LT5 http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...ould-have-been
    You do know I drive a car with a 630hp LSA daily right?

    I'd just like to see what they could do with 4v heads

    (and yes I am aware the LT5 was a clusterfuck, but that doesn't mean it can't be done right)
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    Re: New Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacmedic View Post
    You do know I drive a car with a 630hp LSA daily right?

    I'd just like to see what they could do with 4v heads

    (and yes I am aware the LT5 was a clusterfuck, but that doesn't mean it can't be done right)
    I am not so sure the LT5 was correctly labeled as a “ClusterFxxx”. I also do not support that the VRod engine was in that same category. LT5 was and still is a fantastic engine. The price tag for the ZR1 ‘Vette back in the day limited its success. It was a massive technology change.

    As far as the VRod, it too failed due to majority of the HD buying public “not getting it” when it came to smooth, liquid cooled power. It was not a HD in their eyes. Those who would sling a leg over one, were swayed by non-HD options for less money.

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