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  1. #1
    TMZ of the ZRXOA
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    Zip Ties

    Okay, so maybe I'm a bit behind the curve and some of you may know this already. I'm a zip tie fan and have been for many years.

    My wife showed me one today that can be released with the press of a small tab on the zip tie. The one she had, was on the small size, but it worked great. It tightened up as any one would, and when you pressed a small tab on it, the locking part of the tie released, making it reusable countless times.

    I've never seen this kind in a store or advertised anywhere. I'm going to assume that you can get them in various sizes and lengths. We're going to Home Depot tomorrow for a few things. I will be asking about them to see if they carry um.

    If any of you ARE aware of these, and you didn't make mention of it on this forum, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

    https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-ties-releasable/
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    President of the ZRXOA
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    Zip Ties

    Those are great!

    They come stock on the ZRX in a number of places for securing open wiring.
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by AV80R View Post
    Those are great!

    They come stock on the ZRX in a number of places for securing open wiring.
    hey you. log out. go study
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    Re: Zip Ties



    I miss you guys, what can I say?!
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    Re: Zip Ties

    and don't study zip ties!

    While Dano has been taking a nap, the rest of us have been using the big releasable types to install tires for a few years.
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    Re: Zip Ties



    You need to get out more...







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  7. #7
    Legal Eagle
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Been using them for years to attach my soft saddlebags

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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Reusable or temporary zip ties are awsome, we used them to temporarily mock up/layout new wiring in aviation, they where not legal for permanent installation, had to be replaced with certified zip ties(permanent) using a calibrated installation tool or other specified wire support.
    Most temp zip ties where discarded, a lot where salvaged for my pesonal use

    And since a soon to be certified A&P person is lurking,
    in aviation colored zip ties are used to quickly find correct wire bundles.

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  9. #9
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Zip Ties

    The reusable zip ties are great BUT they come at a premium price point. The 'permanent' 11" ties that I use a lot are are less than $2 at HF whereas the reuseable 11" are $8. So you have to reuse the more than 4 times to make 'em economical.

    I keep a bundle of 11" zip ties on my bike at all times. Ya never know when they'll be needed!
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  10. #10
    TMZ of the ZRXOA
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    Re: Zip Ties

    I try my best to keep current with what's on going and what's been going on. When I come up short, I depend on you all to insure that I don't lag too far behind.

    Come on guys, let's take up some of that slack............
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen#212 View Post
    Reusable or temporary zip ties are awsome, we used them to temporarily mock up/layout new wiring in aviation, they where not legal for permanent installation, had to be replaced with certified zip ties(permanent) using a calibrated installation tool or other specified wire support.
    Most temp zip ties where discarded, a lot where salvaged for my pesonal use

    And since a soon to be certified A&P person is lurking,
    in aviation colored zip ties are used to quickly find correct wire bundles.
    Man, I just get a rats nest to sort out with wires going every which way on the old airplanes I end up rewiring.



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  12. #12
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Yes, the issue on GA planes is that a lot of owner/operators do some of their own maintenance/installations, as some maintenance is allowed by FAA, is a grey area. By regulations all wiring should be identified, etc. and comply with EWIS guidelines.

    Is kind'a like a homeowner fixing code regulated items, you can do it, but it could be trouble down the road

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    Cam degree 105 int.,107 exh.
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    Airbox w/ K+N
    Full Akro
    OEM ign. +5 Adv
    Dyno 131.7 HP/80.4 TQ.
    Ohlins RS, Race tech fork
    Fork brace+Steering damper




    "TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE" IS EASY, RETURNING IS THE REAL CHALLENGE.

    " WHEN YOU OWN A CHINESE SCOOTER, ALL CHINESE SPARE PARTS ARE OEM QUALITY "

  13. #13
    President of the ZRXOA
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Unfortunately, everything you see there is factory original from ACA.

    The old Cessnas aren't any better. Heck the ones I've had don't even have a service or maintenance manual from the manufacturer!
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  14. #14
    Hooligan
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    Re: Zip Ties

    These are expensive but when you need the zip tie to grip, they work great!

    https://www.griplockties.com/

    I just wish they had a size smaller than 8"...
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  15. #15
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    Re: Zip Ties

    The rubber lining sounds great.
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  16. #16
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Yes this is common knowledge all you need is a safety pin or other narrow object like a knife point and insert it into the zip tie pressing down a small tab and it releases from the ratcheted part of the tie
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  17. #17
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by AV80R View Post
    Unfortunately, everything you see there is factory original from ACA.

    The old Cessnas aren't any better. Heck the ones I've had don't even have a service or maintenance manual from the manufacturer!
    Well the there should be some kind of wiring diagram/drawing that was used to certify the aircraft type , IAC at a minimun all wires should be ID with some kind of labelling and/or follow an FAA publication for accepted procedures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cundalini View Post
    Yes this is common knowledge all you need is a safety pin or other narrow object like a knife point and insert it into the zip tie pressing down a small tab and it releases from the ratcheted part of the tie
    Yes, that works a few times, but it will eventually damage the locking system and most people trim the pigtail(excess), so it's not really reusable, even the temps one fail after a while in normal use, in the case of wiring, using sharp objects around wires not a good idea, I know skill plays a big part, but accidents(idiots) happen. seen a guy damage a bunch of aircraft wiring, cutting zip ties with razor knife

    Orig. owner, 99 ZRX, 61k+
    ZX11cams,pistons
    Stick coils, DIM Harness
    Cam degree 105 int.,107 exh.
    Fact. 1.0 w/Ti.,108 MJ
    Airbox w/ K+N
    Full Akro
    OEM ign. +5 Adv
    Dyno 131.7 HP/80.4 TQ.
    Ohlins RS, Race tech fork
    Fork brace+Steering damper




    "TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE" IS EASY, RETURNING IS THE REAL CHALLENGE.

    " WHEN YOU OWN A CHINESE SCOOTER, ALL CHINESE SPARE PARTS ARE OEM QUALITY "

  18. #18
    TMZ of the ZRXOA
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Speaking of zip ties.............

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-f...210629681.html
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  19. #19
    President of the ZRXOA
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Allen#212 View Post
    Well the there should be some kind of wiring diagram/drawing that was used to certify the aircraft type , IAC at a minimun all wires should be ID with some kind of labelling and/or follow an FAA publication for accepted procedures.
    Most of our planes predate the FAA and we're certified under CAR3.

    Literally, the only approved document the planes came with was a 1 page flight manual.

    There is a owners manual and an illustrated parts catalog, but both have errors and aren't approved documents.

    Life with old crusty airplanes built by companies that went out of existence 70 years ago is real fun!!!
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Zip Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by AV80R View Post
    Most of our planes predate the FAA and we're certified under CAR3.

    Literally, the only approved document the planes came with was a 1 page flight manual.

    There is a owners manual and an illustrated parts catalog, but both have errors and aren't approved documents.

    Life with old crusty airplanes built by companies that went out of existence 70 years ago is real fun!!!
    The old CAR(Civil Air Regulations), yes it can be a real PIA and a hell of a grey area, enough said.

    IAC it will be better than OEM in both materials and newer installation techniques, nonetheless the skills of the installer.

    Orig. owner, 99 ZRX, 61k+
    ZX11cams,pistons
    Stick coils, DIM Harness
    Cam degree 105 int.,107 exh.
    Fact. 1.0 w/Ti.,108 MJ
    Airbox w/ K+N
    Full Akro
    OEM ign. +5 Adv
    Dyno 131.7 HP/80.4 TQ.
    Ohlins RS, Race tech fork
    Fork brace+Steering damper




    "TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE" IS EASY, RETURNING IS THE REAL CHALLENGE.

    " WHEN YOU OWN A CHINESE SCOOTER, ALL CHINESE SPARE PARTS ARE OEM QUALITY "


 

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