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  1. #1
    BadAss Hooligan
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    You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    I just had all my wheel bearings and Cushdrive bearing replaced, I went with OEM considering that I was able to get about 50,000mi out of them. I had my rear bearing blow out on me while I was enjoying my new found zx11 cams etc

    The manual calls for 110ftlb torque for the front axle, I think I recall someone telling me that was too much for the front axle and that it could be less than that.

    Thanks

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    avtech3d
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    I use 80, but make sure the pinch bolts are torqued to spec.

    YMMV
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicMan View Post
    I just had all my wheel bearings and Cushdrive bearing replaced, I went with OEM considering that I was able to get about 50,000mi out of them. I had my rear bearing blow out on me while I was enjoying my new found zx11 cams etc

    The manual calls for 110ftlb torque for the front axle, I think I recall someone telling me that was too much for the front axle and that it could be less than that.

    Thanks
    You are sure that is pound-feet and not newton-meters? Can't get to my manual right now.

    And as TGHW will/would remind us: that is a MAXIMUM value listed. I like 78 lb-ft.
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    The manual says something like 92 ft-lb front, 74 ft-lb rear (within 2 ft-lb of those numbers)

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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by avtech2 View Post
    I use 80, but make sure the pinch bolts are torqued to spec.

    YMMV
    80 sounds about right

    Thanks

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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

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    avtech3d
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    That page doesn't show the pinch bolt spec, but you know that.
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by avtech2 View Post
    That page doesn't show the pinch bolt spec, but you know that.


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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

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    Devilsí Advocate
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    I tighten my axles to around 35 ft/lb, but the pinch bolts I always do to spec.

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  11. #11
    avtech3d
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    So, what your saying is? The pinch bolt spec is more important.
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    I tighten my axles to around 35 ft/lb, but the pinch bolts I always do to spec.
    whenever i torque my axles, which i do, i wonder how the hell i'll get the wheels off in a pinch! LOL
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

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    Devilsí Advocate
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by avtech2 View Post
    So, what your saying is? The pinch bolt spec is more important.
    Correct.

    All the aftermarket wheels say "Half the stock torque" because the aluminum sleeve in the wheel will collapse.
    And like jeff says, you will never get the wheel off without a long breaker bar otherwise.

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    avtech3d
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    Correct.

    All the aftermarket wheels say "Half the stock torque" because the aluminum sleeve in the wheel will collapse.
    And like jeff says, you will never get the wheel off without a long breaker bar otherwise.
    Say, I'm using ZZR forks, with ZRX axles and wheel. Does the same torque apply?

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    In Charge of McGov Only
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Does the torque max out at about 5500 rpm?

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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicMan View Post
    The manual calls for 110ftlb torque for the front axle, I think I recall someone telling me that was too much for the front axle and that it could be less than that.

    Thanks
    That would be the 1100 manual. The 1200 manual calls for 94 ft-lbs.




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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Pete View Post
    Does the torque max out at about 5500 rpm?
    On my Scooter it does

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  19. #19
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    I found the wheels torque specs a little crazy on ZRX, I put a light coat of grease on both front and rear axles and torque to 50 ft/lbs. Pinch bolts, 10 front, 20 rear, because I use "Anti-Seize" lubricant on all dissimilar metals. BTW when you tighten the front pinch bolts torque then twice, as torquing the 2nd one will affect torque on 1st one.

    BTW, my 300cc scooter calls for 70Nm(51.5 F/L) front, 135Nm(99.5 F/L) rear on chinese metal 14mm threads , I do 30F/60R with a drop of blue loctite for additional safety, just fiber lock nuts OEM

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  20. #20
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    94 ft/lbs front, 72 ft/lbs rear are the correct values per the 1200 manual.
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  21. #21
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by zrx24 View Post
    That would be the 1100 manual. The 1200 manual calls for 94 ft-lbs.
    interesting they both have the same 41068-1327 axle, 92143-1478 nut & 41073-1618-R2 wheel though eh!

    i guess they must have run out of very very long breaker bars in Japan! LOL
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  22. #22
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    So I will consider lowering the torque on my axles just incase I have to change my tire on the side of the road.

  23. #23
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    talked to my mate who apprenticed & licensed at a Kawi shop for like 20 yrs then did in house stuff for Kawi Canada

    & the high torque on the axles isn't about tightness

    its about the tension on all the parts against each other to ensure wheel stability
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  24. #24
    The Mod Father
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    I tighten my axles to around 35 ft/lb, but the pinch bolts I always do to spec.
    ....

    ...The pinch bolts.....

  25. #25
    Pixel Pusher
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    Re: You ZRX Veterans Correct Me Please

    If only there was place to go look that info up quickly... http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/showthre...downloads-2017
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