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  1. #1
    CarlM
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    Shorai

    So I left the key on. Battery dead. I plugged in the Shorai charger and both lights flash because the battery is so dead. How long till it returns to "normal"? or will it not charge? We have plug in chargers at work we put on buses. They will not charge if the battery is clear dead because it can't sense voltage. same?


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    Re: Shorai

    Don't know about that kind of battery, but I have hooked up another battery in parallel to get the charger to get going. Those take a special charger, don't they?
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    CarlM
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    Re: Shorai

    yes to both. on a bus I put some in with a regular charger then the automatic one will take off.


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    Re: Shorai

    Don't use a full size car charger or you'll have a fire to put out.
    Really.

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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    Don't use a full size car charger or you'll have a fire to put out.
    Really.
    Or......

    Use full size car charger. Set up a clock next to it. Video the whole thing. Ge a data point for: from full dead to full fire.
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    Re: Shorai

    Use a small Battery Tender to get it going, worked with 2 different Shorai batteries for me. The Shorai charger is a finicky little.... I gave mine away.
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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by green12 View Post
    So I left the key on. Battery dead. I plugged in the Shorai charger and both lights flash because the battery is so dead. How long till it returns to "normal"? or will it not charge?
    I drained my Shorai battery down to 2.5V, but it came back fully. With the Shorai Battery Charger, both lights will flash if the battery is fully discharged. However, it will recover.

    Plug in the Shorai Charger, and both lights will flash. Select CHARGE and just leave it flashing for a couple of hours. Then turn off & unplug the charger. Then reconnect the charger but select STORE. It will eventually re-charge fully, probably over night.
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Shorai

    I have always used a battery tender on mine with no issues.

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    Re: Shorai

    Just leave the charger plugged on. It will come back.
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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by ninja11zx View Post
    I have always used a battery tender on mine with no issues.
    The BatteryTender shuts off at 12.99 volts.

    A Shorai fully charged idles at 13.4.

    A BatteryTender will NOT fully charge a Lithium battery.

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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    The BatteryTender shuts off at 12.99 volts.

    A Shorai fully charged idles at 13.4.

    A BatteryTender will NOT fully charge a Lithium battery.
    I can tell I drove my car to work yesterday. My Shorai is down just a little.




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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacmedic View Post
    I can tell I drove my car to work yesterday. My Shorai is down just a little.




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    Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by McGovZRX View Post
    Or......

    Use full size car charger. Set up a clock next to it. Video the whole thing. Ge a data point for: from full dead to full fire.
    Where is McGov’s Minder (CaPete) No wonder McGov had to have a personal moderator lol

    Seriously though once my standard battery went all the way dead, it took > half a day to charge with my Schumacher MC battery charger. It was so dead it wouldn’t even register on the charger for a few hours
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    Re: Shorai

    I BELIEVE you may be right!

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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    I BELIEVE you may be right!
    Me?!!!
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  16. #16
    Wildcat Willy
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    Re: Shorai

    Battery Tender works fine for me. Charges it more than enough...the bike will top it off if necessary.
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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by Berzirkey View Post
    Battery Tender works fine for me. Charges it more than enough...the bike will top it off if necessary.
    Yes, but if you LEAVE it on a Tender, it'll always be low and it will lessen it's life.

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    Father Joe
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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by Murphyau View Post
    I drained my Shorai battery down to 2.5V, but it came back fully. With the Shorai Battery Charger, both lights will flash if the battery is fully discharged. However, it will recover.

    Plug in the Shorai Charger, and both lights will flash. Select CHARGE and just leave it flashing for a couple of hours. Then turn off & unplug the charger. Then reconnect the charger but select STORE. It will eventually re-charge fully, probably over night.
    If you are gonna spend $150+ on a battree one should consider the official charger and these ^^^ simple instructions. Which I believe are enshrined in the written destructions that come with said charger.

    And now, my handler, Ca Pete, compelled me to include this >>>> YMMV.
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    Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by McGovZRX View Post
    If you're gonna spend $150+ on a battree one should consider the official charger and these ^^^ simple instructions. Which I believe are enshrined in the written destructions that come with said charger.

    And now, my handler, Ca Pete, compelled me to include this >>>> YMMV.
    And one of the Battery Trackers from RePete. I always know the state of my battery and charging system via bluetooth. I know if a starting issue is battery related as it tells me real time cranking voltage. The damn thing will even send me a notice if I need to hook it up to a charger.

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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    Yes, but if you LEAVE it on a Tender, it'll always be low and it will lessen it's life.
    Shorai's store mode leaves the battery at 80% charge...

    My Battery Tender charges to 14.5 volts before turning green. At that point it's in monitor mode and will charge back up to 14.5 volts again if the voltage drops below a certain as yet undetermined value.
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  21. #21
    CarlM
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    Re: Shorai

    Last night I plugged on the charger. 9.77, 9.78 . Real slow. This am, 14.2. Takes time. The bike came with a charger so I have two now. Anyone need one? this bike would not let the starter engage @ 10. volts.


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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Shorai

    My battery tender charges it to 13.4 volts . last battery i got from you lasted 4 years. i have a volt meter gage built into my ignition box. works fine for me. its total loss ignition with no charging system.

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    President of the ZRXOA
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    Shorai

    Here is the historical data for my Shorai battery and charger in store mode over the past week.



    I parked it 8 days ago and put it on the charger in store mode



    Day 2



    Day 3



    Day 4



    Day 5



    Day 6



    Day 7



    Day 8





    I will leave it on the charger and check to see if the lower voltage trend for day 7 & 8 continues to fall or if it holds steady at a lower voltage.
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    Re: Shorai

    I feel like I'm missing out on the fun. I run Yuasa stock size batteries, and don't have trouble with them.
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by Cadman View Post
    I feel like I'm missing out on the fun. I run Yuasa stock size batteries, and don't have trouble with them.
    Same here. Premium Yuasa AGM's have never given me any grief.

    And my ZRX has the original battery from 2008 and it's still going strong.

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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by Cadman View Post
    I feel like I'm missing out on the fun. I run Yuasa stock size batteries, and don't have trouble with them.
    The Shorai took me from something like 8 lbs down to 2 lbs from the stock Yuasa, that's the major part of the fun.

    My Shorai sat unused for 1/2 a year and worked flawlessly without ever touching a charger. They're very good batteries. I've had no issues and use their specific charger just for fun.

    I think the people having issues with them would be having issues with the Yuasas too.
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    Father Joe
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    Re: Shorai

    Quote Originally Posted by AV80R View Post
    The Shorai took me from something like 8 lbs down to 2 lbs from the stock Yuasa, that's the major part of the fun.

    My Shorai sat unused for 1/2 a year and worked flawlessly without ever touching a charger. They're very good batteries. I've had no issues and use their specific charger just for fun.

    I think the people having issues with them would be having issues with the Yuasas too.
    I am coming up (September) on 8 years on my two generation 1 Shorais that I got through KWICK. They just a rocking-and-a-rollin.
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    Re: Shorai

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