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  1. #1
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    Aeronca Champ / L-16

    Pretty attractive to have this as an Experimental category aircraft in the USA. Not sure how the FAA would treat an amateur built Canadian plane once its imported.

    Anyone have any experience importing a plane from Canada to the USA?

    This thing is cheap with one day to go. Flying it home to CA will take FOREVER!

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F323458391207
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    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    I built an Aeronca Champion 85 in junior high aeronautics class. I still have the box.
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  3. #3
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    I don't think I could ever have any confidence in flying something any other amateur built in their garage, especially if I didn't know them myself. I've seem too many mechanical repair disasters. I would always be wondering whether something was going to fail to the point that I don't think I could enjoy it.


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  4. #4
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    Aeronca Champ / L-16

    It’s a factory built certified airplane that was allowed to become experimental because of Canada’s 51% rule.

    Maintaining the experimental category on it in the USA has nothing but upsides.

    It has a few mods, including the L-16 configuration fuselage which wasn’t probably original. Also the 3 blade prop.

    I’ve built a few Champs and I think we’ve owned around 6 or 7 of them in the family. They are dead simple and super safe with landing speeds that are less than the speed limits in a residential neighborhood.
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  5. #5
    Hooligan
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    New Brunswick, Canada

    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    I had the good fortune to fly a Champ while a student pilot trying to get seat time. It was a blast, slow as molasses in winter, but fun. Flapless landings, on short grass strips trying for the perfect 3 pointer. It was out into skis when the snow fell. That was a completely different ball game I tell ya.

  6. #6
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    Aeronca Champ / L-16

    They’re fun planes to fly! A “real” airplane that requires stick and rudder skills.

    Slipping them in to land with the rudder flirted and opposite rudder maxed out while aiming for the runway out the side window is unlike anything else.
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  7. #7
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    Could it be further away?

    If that was near by, I would be right over there. I have not been punished enough.
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  8. #8
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    Pretty much as far as possible Bill!
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  9. #9
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    I think she said she was from Bush Hot Creek. You can't makeup stuff like that.


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  10. #10
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

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  11. #11
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Australia

    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    "THIS AIRPLANE HAD A LITTLE TROUBLE ON LANDING ON A SAND BAR OUT IN THE BUSH AND FLIPPED OVER."

    Yeah the airplane had the trouble landing ...........

    It's the planes fault.

  12. #12
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    Right?

    I’ve never seen one of these that hasn’t been crashed in some way at some point in its life.
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  13. #13
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    Quote Originally Posted by AV80R View Post
    Pretty attractive to have this as an Experimental category aircraft in the USA. Not sure how the FAA would treat an amateur built Canadian plane once its imported.

    Anyone have any experience importing a plane from Canada to the USA?

    This thing is cheap with one day to go. Flying it home to CA will take FOREVER!

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F323458391207
    Give Dan a call he imported his last plane from Canada
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  14. #14
    Born In The USA
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    Good thing that plane was way over there. It sold for 13k. If it was for sale here for that price, I might be looking for a hanger today.
    You'll never know how fast you can go, until you go too fast.

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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    Yeah, that was a heck of a bargain but the flight home would take eons.
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  16. #16
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    I think it carries 3 hours of gas, or something like that, against fall headwinds all the way back. It would have been better to put it on a trailer.
    You'll never know how fast you can go, until you go too fast.

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  17. #17
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    Aeronca Champ / L-16

    This one has wing tanks.

    Main tank up front has 13 gallons and it most likely has 5 gallons in each wing for a total of 23 gallons.

    It burns 3.5 per hour, so at least you can put down some long legs if you can manage to pee in a bottle or one of those Little John thingies.

    You’re still right about putting it on a trailer though.
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  18. #18
    BadAss Hooligan
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    New Braunfels, Texas

    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    Bud is correct. I imported my plane from Canada. However, it was built here and of course is an FAA certified model. The process is basically the same though.

    I can tell you about it. I think it is doable.
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  19. #19
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    Re: Aeronca Champ / L-16

    My inspector at the local FSDO confirmed what I suspected would be the case.

    Even though the plane is considered experimental in Canada, it wouldn’t be here in the USA.

    A DAR from the FAA would have to inspect the plane and ensure it conforms to the type certificate to get a USA airworthiness certificate.

    The three blades prop and who knows what else would have to be removed and replaced with approved options before the airplane would be airworthy here.
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