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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

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    The two bandits I've owned required FULL CHOKE to get the bike to start from a cold situation. I then slowly removed the choke after 10-15 seconds. There may be a need to have the choke partially engaged until the bike warms a bit.

    Any added throttle will quickly cause the bandits to stall. As said before, use the throttle only after the bike has warmed a bit.
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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by IGNATZ View Post
    Try cranking it for about 10 seconds with choke off and throttle wide open

    I seriously doubt its flooded if all that's being done is what was just presented in that video. They're hardly giving it any gas at all with that very quick and light flick of the throttle.


    But yes, if there is a gas smell that indicates its flooded that's usually the cure.

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Alright, so it started! Awesome, but now its puffing white smoke. It can run good for 30 seconds, and then will begin to cut in and out. It doesn't shut off, but it just stutters. Even after letting it heat up a little, I put it still with 3/4 clutch on and if i give it any throttle it cuts out completely. 1 problem the fix, the next begins. Just the carbs now??

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by MixsonMashin View Post
    Alright, so it started! Awesome, but now its puffing white smoke. It can run good for 30 seconds, and then will begin to cut in and out. It doesn't shut off, but it just stutters. Even after letting it heat up a little, I put it still with 3/4 clutch on and if i give it any throttle it cuts out completely. 1 problem the fix, the next begins. Just the carbs now??
    The crankcase might be full of fuel.

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    The crankcase might be full of fuel.
    Yeah,hopefully just some condensation but that's optimistic.
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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    The crankcase might be full of fuel.
    I just smelled inside, getting a hint of a gas smell. The levels haven't risen though on the little window on the side. I just put brand new oil in the other day.

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by MixsonMashin View Post
    I just smelled inside, getting a hint of a gas smell. The levels haven't risen though on the little window on the side. I just put brand new oil in the other day.
    If you smell it, it IS IN THERE!

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by MixsonMashin View Post
    Alright, so it started! Awesome, but now its puffing white smoke. It can run good for 30 seconds, and then will begin to cut in and out. It doesn't shut off, but it just stutters. Even after letting it heat up a little, I put it still with 3/4 clutch on and if i give it any throttle it cuts out completely. 1 problem the fix, the next begins. Just the carbs now??
    How did you get it started?


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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by TGHW View Post
    How did you get it started?


    TG
    I got it started with the bike hooked up to my car battery. It can now be started un hooked to the cars battery. Also, used full choke.k

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by TGHW View Post
    You need a new battery.


    TG
    Quote Originally Posted by MixsonMashin View Post
    I got it started with the bike hooked up to my car battery. It can now be started un hooked to the cars battery. Also, used full choke.k
    See above.


    Your plugs are likely fouled now, after all that dinking around that you've been doing for several days, instead of taking the advice that you asked for.


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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by MixsonMashin View Post
    Alright, so it started! Awesome, but now its puffing white smoke. It can run good for 30 seconds, and then will begin to cut in and out. It doesn't shut off, but it just stutters. Even after letting it heat up a little, I put it still with 3/4 clutch on and if i give it any throttle it cuts out completely. 1 problem the fix, the next begins. Just the carbs now??
    Once the engine heats up you should be able to close the choke. Bikes usually don't throttle well with the choke 3/4 open. I'm guessing that is what you were experiencing here. Get it warmed up so that it idles or at least runs without the choke on, and reacts well to throttle input without the choke on. If you're not able to get it to do that, then yes, you likely have some gummed up carbs.

    Sounds like you're trying to reserect a bike that has been sitting up for a while. Is that the case?

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by zrx24 View Post
    Sounds like you're trying to reserect a bike that has been sitting up for a while. Is that the case?
    No this is actually the 2003 Bandit I bought for my little bro...heres the link I posted when I first picked it up http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/showthre...it-Info-needed....

    The gas tank was nasty so we cleaned it out very thoroughly and had it up and running good enough to trust it push the 200+ mile trip from Orlando to Tallahassee. I told MM that he would need to clean the carbs due to pushing bad gas for who nows how long, I would try and help out with his current problems but I am 4 hours away, I just keep telling him to post on here.

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Yes, if it is not clear from the previous few posts, put the choke on, leave it on, do not touch the throttle and try starting it. Once the bike fires, if it fires, let it run for a little bit and if/when the idle starts to creep up, start taking some of the choke off. Shouldn't need more than a minute or so of choke to get enough heat in the engine that you can modulate it with the throttle as you ride away.

    No worries, in the world of fuel injection the art of starting a cold carb'd vehicle isn't always clear.
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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by BonzRexster View Post
    Yes, if it is not clear from the previous few posts, put the choke on, leave it on, do not touch the throttle and try starting it. Once the bike fires, if it fires, let it run for a little bit and if/when the idle starts to creep up, start taking some of the choke off. Shouldn't need more than a minute or so of choke to get enough heat in the engine that you can modulate it with the throttle as you ride away.

    No worries, in the world of fuel injection the art of starting a cold carb'd vehicle isn't always clear.
    ^^^ This ^^^ always worked for me on both of my Bandits.
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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

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    These are pictures of all the fresh new spark plugs that have 0 street time on them. I put these in a few days ago. I dont know if it matters what order, but these are in numerical order, 1,2,3,4. Not sure if it makes a difference. Also got a pic where the #1 and #4 spark plug would go into

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    You NEED to properly torque your spark plugs.

    NEW plugs get 1/2 turn after finger tight.

    USED plug you need to use a torque wrench on, the spec is in the manual..

    YOUR spark plug gaskets are not compressed at all...do it right.

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    You NEED to properly torque your spark plugs.

    NEW plugs get 1/2 turn after finger tight.

    USED plug you need to use a torque wrench on, the spec is in the manual..

    YOUR spark plug gaskets are not compressed at all...do it right.
    I read what they should properly be. this was my mess up. I tried to tighten it just as much as when i loosened them. I will get them to spec. Should these be replaced now?

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by MixsonMashin View Post
    I read what they should properly be. this was my mess up. I tried to tighten it just as much as when i loosened them. I will get them to spec. Should these be replaced now?
    Nah. Just hit 'em with some brake cleaner and a wire brush.


    So based on what your brother posted I'm a little perplexed why you're having issues with the bike. Sounded like it ran fine, or at least good enough for him to ride it up to you. Why aren't you out putting miles on it? You've now figured out how to start it. Go ride the damn thing!

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by zrx24 View Post
    So based on what your brother posted I'm a little perplexed why you're having issues with the bike. Sounded like it ran fine, or at least good enough for him to ride it up to you. Why aren't you out putting miles on it? You've now figured out how to start it. Go ride the damn thing!
    Honestly, I think I passed on some bad info to MM regarding petcock positioning and choke.....I'm still learning here too people!!!!! So I sent him up and new plugs, petcock and some $$$ to get those carbs cleaned.

    About the white smoke....is that just bad oil? I know he just gave an oil change on Wednesday, so could the white smoke just be from the old crap that just needs to be burned out? I am just a spectator now last thing I want is to keep giving out bad info especially to my lil bro cause he knows where I live and how much $ I make

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by zrx24 View Post
    Nah. Just hit 'em with some brake cleaner and a wire brush.


    So based on what your brother posted I'm a little perplexed why you're having issues with the bike. Sounded like it ran fine, or at least good enough for him to ride it up to you. Why aren't you out putting miles on it? You've now figured out how to start it. Go ride the damn thing!
    I'd love to put miles on it. once i correctly torque these spark plugs after cleaning them im gonna start it and let it sit for a while. At idle w full choke and then slightly start pulling back. hopefully carbs will allow it too ride up too the shop to get cleaned.

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    The bike clearly has been sitting up. Previous owner may have well have put who knows what in the tank as a stabilizer.

    The bike clearly runs since it was ridden 200 miles to get to its new home. Did it blow smoke that whole time? Or did it just blow white smoke when brought out of hibernation, then cleared up after a fresh tank of gas put in it?

    Are we talking a lot of white smoke, or simply wiffs of smoke that could simply be moisture in the engine burning off?

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by zrx24 View Post
    The bike clearly has been sitting up. Previous owner may have well have put who knows what in the tank as a stabilizer.

    The bike clearly runs since it was ridden 200 miles to get to its new home. Did it blow smoke that whole time? Or did it just blow white smoke when brought out of hibernation, then cleared up after a fresh tank of gas put in it?

    Are we talking a lot of white smoke, or simply wiffs of smoke that could simply be moisture in the engine burning off?
    It didn't smoke at all on the ride home. Its just smoking now. It's not really heavy white smoke. kinda wimpy white smoke. but it i personally don't think its just moisture. The bike would run for 30 seconds and still be smoking.

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Here's some Bandit info that you can download. Good Luck

    Bandit FAQ.pdf

    Note: Let Me Know if the file works properly.

    I'm having trouble attaching the file. I'll keep working on it.
    Last edited by Big Harry; 03-10-2017 at 12:46 PM.
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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Harry View Post
    Here's some Bandit info that you can download. Good Luck

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Big Harry

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by 407cruzer View Post
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    You evidently downloaded these Bandit help files according to this>>> http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/showthread.php?332883-2003-Bandit-Info-needed....&p=4681799&viewfull=1#post4681799

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    end 'em to your brother.
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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Harry View Post
    You evidently downloaded these Bandit help files according to this>>> http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/showthread.php?332883-2003-Bandit-Info-needed....&p=4681799&viewfull=1#post4681799

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    end 'em to your brother.
    Yes sir, I got them. Will do, thanks!

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by MixsonMashin View Post
    It didn't smoke at all on the ride home. Its just smoking now. It's not really heavy white smoke. kinda wimpy white smoke. but it i personally don't think its just moisture. The bike would run for 30 seconds and still be smoking.

    I would ride it and just keep an eye on oil usage.

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by MixsonMashin View Post
    I'd love to put miles on it. once i correctly torque these spark plugs after cleaning them im gonna start it and let it sit for a while. At idle w full choke and then slightly start pulling back. hopefully carbs will allow it too ride up too the shop to get cleaned.
    You won't be able to afford a dealer carb rebuild.

    http://kwickstand.net/Hyper-Formance..._Cleaning.html

    Non-ZRX carbs will cost a bit more and take a bit longer as I'll have to order Suzuki parts....

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    Re: 2003 Suzuki Bandit smoking

    https://youtu.be/odmgwUank1E

    This link is to very first start up. Re adjusted spark plugs to finger tight and 1/2 turn. It doesn't sound 100% as you can hear in vid and it eventually clonks out on its own.

    https://youtu.be/ceqhGhKsyRU

    Since it clonked out, i thought it might be the battery. So i hooked it up and tried it and now it doesn't want to start up at all. Just runs the starter.

    I smelled oil again and gas smell seems to be more present in it.


 

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