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  1. #151
    Hooligan
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Pete View Post
    It will stay clean, and it needs to be reapplied every 5 or 600 hundred miles, it's very unforgiving if you forget, like me who commutes on the bike everyday.
    What about dirt and grime? Just reapply over that? Seems like dust will cause wear?

  2. #152
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by discoganya View Post
    What about dirt and grime? Just reapply over that? Seems like dust will cause wear?
    When you re-apply it will clean it too. Pretty amazing how clean it stays. The actual moving areas that really matter have the o or x rings to keep them from having wear.

  3. #153
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Pete View Post
    When you re-apply it will clean it too. Pretty amazing how clean it stays. The actual moving areas that really matter have the o or x rings to keep them from having wear.
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  4. #154
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Pete , did u mean forgiving ? I commute as well , and let it go at times . Iím not as concern about corrosion as per lubrication on the rollers
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  5. #155
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Pete , did u mean forgiving ? I commute as well , and let it go at times . Iím not as concern about corrosion as per lubrication on the rollers

    Nope, your chain lets you know it needs more lube. At least with my chain anyway, but it wasn't used from the start of the chain life. It will get tight spots, and as soon as you lube it, it's fine again.


    Just my experience, seems to be at the 5 or 600 mile distance for me, I know I have to lube it again. I do at least 60 miles a day, so I'm at that mark in less than 2 weeks.

  6. #156
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Gotchya . Thanks .
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    2001 BLACK ZRX !!!!
    2000 BMW k1200LT

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  7. #157
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Palmer Lake, CO

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    The insides wear out. No amount of lube can get inside past the o-rings.
    Grandma.
    Is this chain study 101 here or what, lol. Every little bit of care and maintenance helps. If that is cut and dried, guys that donít lube their chain should get the same life as guys that do. Like you said nothing gets past the o-rings.
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  8. #158
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Right Grandma 👵

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  9. #159
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Then my countershaft sprocket should last forever , lol
    It DOES wear on the outside of the rollers as well . Thatís where I need the self applied lube .
    31, 000 miles and rolling here
    It IS a ZZZ pre-stretched chain . I hate they stopped production .
    Awesome chain . Nothing but chain wax , but it is messy . Yuk
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  10. #160
    BadAss Hooligan
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    '01 R Toronto

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by AV80R View Post
    It should look like a dry chain after application.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    So how do you know when to re-apply?
    surely there's some color on the roller & it feels tacky to the touch?
    never drop your bike sober, it hurts too much!

  11. #161
    President of the ZRXOA
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    Pleasanton, CA

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Lube almost doesn't anything at all in the high shear and pressure contact between the sprocket and rollers.

    KWICK had a good video he posted explaining this.

    ACF-50 chemically prevents those surfaces from rusting, but the reapplication Ca Pete points out at the 500 mile mark isn't because the rollers and sprockets are dry, it's because the links themselves will lose their supple movement and your chain will tell you it needs more lube. It gets "crunchy" for lack of a better explanation. You can definitely feel/hear the change.

    Wipe with some more ACF-50 to clean and renew it, and the links will be as supple as a new nylon rope and you will hear/feel the difference on your next ride when it's back to it's happy place and you'll be good for another 500 miles.

    I still gotta make that video I promised...
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  12. #162
    President of the ZRXOA
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    How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by jefflthomas View Post
    surely there's some color on the roller & it feels tacky to the touch?
    Nope, nada. It looks like a dry chain. After application you can feel a wet film if you touch it but you can't see it.
    Arash (pronounced "our-ash")

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  13. #163
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by AV80R View Post
    Nope, nada. It looks like a dry chain. After application you can feel a wet film if you touch it but you can't see it.
    Gonna have to retrain my mind and eyes .
    My concern is not rusting tho . NEVER had a chain even begin to rust , even here in Mississippi , with our high humidity . Easy application while on the road , and longevity of said application , are important . Gonna try it ��
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  14. #164
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    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post
    Gonna have to retrain my mind and eyes .
    My concern is not rusting tho . NEVER had a chain even begin to rust , even here in Mississippi , with our high humidity . Easy application while on the road , and longevity of said application , are important . Gonna try it 👍
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  15. #165
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Palmer Lake, CO

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Dare I say a 13oz can is coming from Amazon...
    01 GREEN, ZX9 gauges,Sonic 1.1 springs,DMR shocks,Holeshot Touring bars,MCL 1Ē risers,Buell pegs,Couch fork brace and rear brake torque link,JE 12.5:1 stock bore,ZZR cams,double springs,CVK40's,BEAR RACING CVK40 velocity stacks,dual foam uni-pods,Keihin 150 mains,#40ís@2.0 turns,FH 15mm, FP K87 TI needles, 3.0 clip position,plastic slides,FP ZX11 springs,Muzzy 4-2-1/Ti oval can,stock ZRX ECU/+2 Ted's rotor, NGK CR10EIX plugs,ZX14 stick coils,Ted's pod tray,4-pot calipers.

  16. #166
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Dec 2004
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    Surrey, BC (Before Carbonfibre)

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by jefflthomas View Post
    i guess it's probably good in the rain too eh?

    seems to be available not far from me too

    https://gpbikes.com/acf-50-anti-corr...gging-oil.html
    Cheaper from Fortnine...

    https://fortnine.ca/en/acf-50-anti-c...ricant-formula

    Especially if you can swing the free shipping!
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  17. #167
    BadAss Hooligan
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
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    Palmer Lake, CO

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Would that be inclusive of free shipping to the United States?
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  18. #168
    Hooligan
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    Sep 2018
    Location
    Chicagoland, USA

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Without wishing to dispute the wonders of other lubes, my faith has been in PJ1 since the early days. My KZ650's OEM chain went 42K using the old plain label. My more recently-departed (and missed) ZX1100E's OEM chain went 48K on PJ1 Blue Label and it's DID replacement had 58K when I sold the bike last year: the chain was right at the stretch limit but had no kinks and sounded good. And it had seen plenty of rain as my go-to bad weather bike.
    In fact, I've never had a chain I owned from new go less than 40K. PJ1 all the way.
    And, I've almost never cleaned a chain. When I first hit that DID on the GPZ with some kerosene, I imagine it was mightily surprised. I suppose chain cleaning is important.
    Never saw any rust on any of my chains, so never gave rust-resistance much thought.
    Bill

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  19. #169
    Hooligan
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    Feb 2016
    Location
    North Carolina

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    I recently bought a 32oz bottle of ACF50 which came with the little almost useless spray bottle. My 1st impression is I like it alot. The 1st time I did have some fling but I think it was residual from the chain cleaning. Since I have "wiped" the chain twice and have not had any fling. Also it does a good job on the hoses and such. It seems you just have to wipe all excess off or it will attract some dust/dirt. It gets a 2 rating from me so far.

  20. #170
    President of the ZRXOA
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    Pleasanton, CA

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?



    You can use it everywhere except your brake pads and rotors.

    Works especially well rejuvenating plastic, like the handlebar controls.

    Arash (pronounced "our-ash")

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  21. #171
    Hooligan
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    North Carolina

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    Yes thank you for the recommendation!!

    I also gave the headers a wipe after polishing them. Worked great and since it is such a thin film there was very little "burn off".

  22. #172
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Aug 2001
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    causing trouble near Milton, Ontario, Canada

    Re: How do you keep your chain lubed and clean is it possible?

    SPF 50 also make the tins shine better than Pledge when you enter it in indoor bike shows
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