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  1. #91
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Offset same as 1100 or 1200? As I own 2 1100's I would be interested in those. Could your program be set-up for both?

    (I've read the 1100 handles a little better!)
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  2. #92
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    I know these are for the ZX6R; are they on the ZX14R as well?

    http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/showthre...ston-Fork-quot

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  3. #93
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by steadyeddie View Post
    Offset same as 1100 or 1200? As I own 2 1100's I would be interested in those. Could your program be set-up for both?

    (I've read the 1100 handles a little better!)
    What is the offset for both? What is the rake and trail numbers for both bikes?

    Do they both have the same forks, I know the swingarm on the 1100 is shorter, but is ride height different?

  4. #94
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    1100 rake 25*, trail 104mm, offset 28mm ( I think). Don't know about the 1200.
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  5. #95
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stites View Post
    get a better understanding of the speedo drive......maybe I can make it work with the 14 forks?
    With stock zrx front wheel, the speedo drive will work. You just need to mill it down.
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  6. #96
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by steadyeddie View Post
    I think a top gull-wing triple for the 14 front end would make the most sense.
    That ^
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  7. #97
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    With stock zrx front wheel, the speedo drive will work. You just need to mill it down.
    I am thinking 14 wheels

  8. #98
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stites View Post
    I am thinking 14 wheels
    I think the countershaft drive is the way to go. = Ala sportin wood.
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  9. #99
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stites View Post
    I am thinking 14 wheels
    Heavy...


    New ZX10 wheels look like stock and are very light (relatively speaking).

  10. #100
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kawi Vandal View Post
    Heavy...


    New ZX10 wheels look like stock and are very light (relatively speaking).
    I don't care about the weight, I like the look of the 14 wheels......if I want fast I'll get on the booosa.

  11. #101
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stites View Post
    I don't care about the weight, I like the look of the 14 wheels......if I want fast I'll get on the booosa.
    You mean you DON'T want to dump 10K worth of engine mods and Ti and still get smoked by a busa or a ZX10 ?

    what kind of zrx'er are you?
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  12. #102
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by steadyeddie View Post
    1100 rake 25*, trail 104mm, offset 28mm ( I think). Don't know about the 1200.
    The length and angle of the swingarm and tire height is different 1100/1200, so the numbers are not changed all in the front.


    "As any apprentice machinist of 1900 knew, there is no limit to what you can make with just a hacksaw and a file. A milling machine and a lathe just speed up the process of converting ideas into objects. The idea's the thing, not the method"
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by KWICK View Post
    The length and angle of the swingarm and tire height is different 1100/1200, so the numbers are not changed all in the front.
    Huh? Reads weird....

  14. #104
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stites View Post
    Huh? Reads weird....
    Jack the back of a bike up, or down, and the rake and trail change.


    "As any apprentice machinist of 1900 knew, there is no limit to what you can make with just a hacksaw and a file. A milling machine and a lathe just speed up the process of converting ideas into objects. The idea's the thing, not the method"
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  15. #105
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    So... some info here. Yamaha R6 forks are the longest, and very close to the stock ZRX length. Also in good supply.

    Many of the USD forks are the same dimensions at the triples - so making a triple that would fit the ZRX and accept a wide range of forks makes sense.
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  16. #106
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    are all the new forks the "Big Piston Fork" now??

    or is it only the ZX6R ???
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  17. #107
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyDave View Post
    are all the new forks the "Big Piston Fork" now??

    or is it only the ZX6R ???
    ZX10 is now a BPF also (or so I've heard)

  18. #108
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Ya zx10 has them, the Suzuki's have had them for a few years now.
    .

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  19. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve516 View Post
    So... some info here. Yamaha R6 forks are the longest, and very close to the stock ZRX length. Also in good supply.

    Many of the USD forks are the same dimensions at the triples - so making a triple that would fit the ZRX and accept a wide range of forks makes sense.
    Ok
    What fork tubes fit the zx14 trees?
    (Same dimensions as the zx14 tubes)

    We already know zx10 (shorter though)
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  20. #110
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    My next relevant question, is where are everyone getting these front ends? They surely must be from crashed bikes; thus wouldn't these front ends be bent? I'd be VERY afraid of buying a complete front end off the web = is this not taking a BIG chance?

    The prices seem too good to be true. Shoot if you gotta spend $1800 on a ZX14 front end, why not just spend $500 more for Ohlins? I'm confused....der....
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  21. #111
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyDave View Post
    My next relevant question, is where are everyone getting these front ends? They surely must be from crashed bikes; thus wouldn't these front ends be bent? I'd be VERY afraid of buying a complete front end off the web = is this not taking a BIG chance?

    The prices seem too good to be true. Shoot if you gotta spend $1800 on a ZX14 front end, why not just spend $500 more for Ohlins? I'm confused....der....
    Ohlins forks start at 2,800.00 and are only available from an overseas source, have fun. But after owning bikes with both setups, I prefer the zx14 setup much more.

    Now I spent around $1,200. for mine and the zx14 forks and wheels are new unused takeoffs. The zx14 engine is in great demand and Kawasaki won't sell just the engine, so the bikes are purchased, engines taken out and the rest of it sold as parts. Plus I now get to sell the stuff I took off, lowering the overall price.

    Oh and not all crashed bikes bend the forks, come on now, you know that.
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  22. #112
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    I'll start putting a list of dimensions together John...

    I'm fairly sure most of the late model bikes with Showa forks are BPF (sport bikes) which come in 41mm and 43mm sizes.

    CBR 600RR 2013->
    CBR 1000RR 2012->

    ZX-6R 2009->
    ZX-10R 2011->

    GSX-R 600 2011->
    GSX-R 750 2011->
    GSX-R 1000 2012->

    Yamaha uses Soqi forks now, previously KYB.

    Showa is majority owned by Honda I believe.
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  23. #113
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Saw this researching last night, thought it might be worth sharing.

    Make/Model year Range Fork Length mm (inch) (axle center to fork cap top extended suspension)
    Buell
    M1 700mm (27,5'')
    M2 730mm (28,75'')

    Ducati
    998s ohlins 720mm (28,374'')
    monster 750ie 02 730mm (28,74'')
    st3 04-05 725mm (28,54'')
    st4s 02-03 697mm (27,44'')

    Harley Davidson
    most 812mm (32'')

    Honda
    CBR1000RR 692mm (27,25'')
    CBR600F1 87-90 738mm (29,05'')
    CBR929 00-01 724mm (28,5'')
    CBR954 02-05 724mm (28,5'')
    RC51 SP1 762MM (30'')
    RC51 SP2 736MM (28,97'')
    vfr 750 fl 791mm (31,15'')
    VFR800 780mm (30,75'')
    vtr1000f 778mm (30,62'')

    kawasaki
    fz1 2007 762mm (30'')
    versys 774mm (30'')
    ZRX1100 766mm (30,15'')
    ZX10R 06-07 743mm (29,25'')
    ZX10R 04-05 730mm (28,75'')
    ZX14 742mm (29,25'')
    ZX636 750mm (29,5'')
    ZX9r B4 94-97 766mm (30,15'')

    Suzuki
    GSF 400 JDM 820mm (32'')
    GSXR1000 01-02 726mm (28,54'')
    GSXR1000 03-04 720mm (28,34'')
    GSXR1000 05-06 720mm (28,34'')
    GSXR1000 07-08 720mm (28,34'')
    GSXR1100W 94 770mm mm (30,25)
    Gsxr1300 Hayabusa 99-07 725mm (28,54'')
    Gsxr1300 Hayabusa 08
    GSXR600 00-03
    GSXR600 04-05 720mm (28,34'')
    GSXR600 06-07 738mm (29,05'')
    GSXR750 90-95 750mm (29,5'') 257mm (10 1/8'')
    GSXR750 00-03
    GSXR750 04-05 720mm (28,34'')
    GSXR750 06-07 738mm (29,05'')
    GSXR750 SRAD 96-99 730mm (28,75'')
    RF600 97 750mm (29,5'') 257mm (10 1/8'')
    TL1000R all 717mm (28,22'')
    TL1000S all 732mm (28,81'')
    VZ800 Marauder 838mm (33'')

    Yamaha
    FZR400 790mm(31.1'')
    FZ750 1986 825mm (32,5'')
    FZR1000 87-88 770mm (30,3'')
    FZR1000 exup 89 770mm (30,25'')
    XV920 J virago 82-83 825mm (32,5'')

  24. #114
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Was just looking at that list I posted ZX9 is the same length as the ZRX.....

  25. #115
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    You might want to include the Aprilia line on the forks.

    The set of Ohlins I got came from eBay for less than $1000. YMMV

    Herb

  26. #116
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    To bad that list doesn't include the new stuff.
    .

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  27. #117
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Pete View Post
    To bad that list doesn't include the new stuff.
    Well we could start adding to it and make it a sticky, make one person in control of it and said member gets PM's from members with any new dimensions. In a matter of no time it could be close to current.

  28. #118
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stites View Post
    Well we could start adding to it and make it a sticky, make one person in control of it and said member gets PM's from members with any new dimensions. In a matter of no time it could be close to current.
    It's being tried with the ZRX jetting right now, I'd like to see it on the forks as well. Then you could make changes really quickly if you wanted to.

  29. #119
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stites View Post
    If I made it I would make it top and bottom trees (BLING) with steering damper and make it to fit the ZRX stem.
    just need the upper uppers and lowers (bling) would be twice as much work and money

  30. #120
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    Re: Who can make me a triple tree for USD forks...

    Quote Originally Posted by rt224hp View Post
    just need the upper uppers and lowers (bling) would be twice as much work and money
    And wouldn't you have to buy a stem or wouldn't the bike be lower?

    If I build both you can retain the stock height and use the ZRX stem...........am I missing anything?


 

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