Carbon Fiber V.S. Plastic

[Kawi Vandal]

I like the look of carbon so this may be a moot point, but does anyone know the weight savings of carbon fiber parts over plastic body work? I'm looking at a front fender for the ZX14 forks and for about 170.00 I can get a CF front fender. The front fender I have right now is 14.4oz. Trying to decide if the weight lost is worth the money right now.

[warren]

Thats a tough question to answer there. If you are interested in weight differences then you must also concider manufacturing procedures (weight can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer). You must also concier if you want race carbon (very very light, but equally brittle) or street carbon, which is heavier because of the extra material used to give it some inpact resistance. overall I would have to say that a good set of street carbon will weigh roughly what it's plastic counterpart weighs, but the cool factor is way off the chart.

[Kawi Vandal]

Thats a tough question to answer there. If you are interested in weight differences then you must also concider manufacturing procedures (weight can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer). You must also concier if you want race carbon (very very light, but equally brittle) or street carbon, which is heavier because of the extra material used to give it some inpact resistance. overall I would have to say that a good set of street carbon will weigh roughly what it's plastic counterpart weighs, but the cool factor is way off the chart.

I'd bet it is stronger as well . I agree with the cool factor, just looking at weight loss as I still have a battery and other heavy bits to replace.

[zrx24]

I like the look of carbon so this may be a moot point, but does anyone know the weight savings of carbon fiber parts over plastic body work? I'm looking at a front fender for the ZX14 forks and for about 170.00 I can get a CF front fender. The front fender I have right now is 14.4oz. Trying to decide if the weight lost is worth the money right now.

You might save yourself about 1/3 the weight of the plastic fender. So maybe 5oz.

[firefish]

I have one OEM R1 fender (ABS I think) and one street carbon fender for my project and they weigh about the same. As said, a race carbon fender would be lighter.

Fibre glass and carbon are close in weight unless you go high end.

[Kawi Vandal]

I have one OEM R1 fender (ABS I think) and one street carbon fender for my project and they weigh about the same. As said, a race carbon fender would be lighter.

Fibre glass and carbon are close in weight unless you go high end.

Ok, that's what I was wondering. I don't need CF yet to go for the high end stuff. I've still got some other low cost/oz weight loss measures that I can take. I'll keep looking on the fender to find one that will be light and CF

[eddie lane]

I like the look of carbon so this may be a moot point, but does anyone know the weight savings of carbon fiber parts over plastic body work? I'm looking at a front fender for the ZX14 forks and for about 170.00 I can get a CF front fender. The front fender I have right now is 14.4oz. Trying to decide if the weight lost is worth the money right now.

none of the money you waste on weight savings is worth the cost. it's only justified in your pea sized brain.

[Kawi Vandal]

none of the money you waste on weight savings is worth the cost. it's only justified in your pea sized brain.

That's rich coming all the way from NASA. Then again I suppose the guy charged with cleaning out the centrifuge would be like that

[eddie lane]

That's rich coming all the way from NASA. Then again I suppose the guy charged with cleaning out the centrifuge would be like that

i waste more of your tax dollars than you can believe but i have never cleaned a centrifuge. we don't have one at JSC but we do/did have a space shuttle flight simulator and i got to fly it. 'pretty fu ckin' cool!!, huh?

[Kawi Vandal]

i waste more of your tax dollars than you can believe but i have never cleaned a centrifuge. we don't have one at JSC but we do/did have a space shuttle flight simulator and i got to fly it. 'pretty fu ckin' cool!!, huh?

Sorry you don't have a centrifuge but at least you got to fly the stimulator. That must have been pretty cool for you

[Kawi Vandal]

i waste more of your tax dollars than you can believe but i have never cleaned a centrifuge. we don't have one at JSC but we do/did have a space shuttle flight simulator and i got to fly it. 'pretty fu ckin' cool!!, huh?

Sorry, read it again, my bad.

As for the simulator, I rode a little red wagon down a loading dock when I was a kid. It's probably a lot like that except mine was real.

[eddie lane]

Sorry, read it again, my bad.

As for the simulator, I rode a little red wagon down a loading dock when I was a kid. It's probably a lot like that except mine was real.

no, it was nothing like that. actually, i wasn't impressed with flying the simulator. i was more impressed with the instructors skills to walk me thru it. he is one of our own from this board and a good friend to have. without him, i may never have gotten to fly it.

have fun with your memory of the little red wagon.

[Kawi Vandal]

no, it was nothing like that. actually, i wasn't impressed with flying the simulator. i was more impressed with the instructors skills to walk me thru it. :

Used a lot of small words did he?

[eddie lane]

Used a lot of small words did he?

he used the same instructions he uses for the astronauts. your attempt at degradation is useless. grow up, loser!!

[Kawi Vandal]

he used the same instructions he uses for the astronauts. your attempt at degradation is useless. grow up, loser!!

ok eddie I will stop bother-ing you now. Me small, you big man. You very smart, very special, you can be any-thing.

[eddie lane]

ok eddie I will stop bother-ing you now. Me small, you big man. You very smart, very special, you can be any-thing.

you're making improvement............i'll give you that.

[Kawi Vandal]

you're making improvement............i'll give you that.

Not surprised that you fall for butt kissing. Sincere or otherwise.

[eddie lane]

Not surprised that you fall for butt kissing. Sincere or otherwise.

i don't want or need you or anyone else to kiss my butt, however a little bit of respect goes a looooooooooooong way. you are now getting the same respect that you have given me for the past six months.
own up to your behavior.

[Kawi Vandal]

i don't want or need you or anyone else to kiss my butt, however a little bit of respect goes a looooooooooooong way. you are now getting the same respect that you have given me for the past six months.
own up to your behavior.

Ok, from the first I haven't respected you. Your attacks on another ZRXOA member appeared to be without merit and I stepped in to try and reason with you. You were without reason but a lot of fun to mess with. Thanks for the memories.