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    Tensile Strength

    Anybody know what strength chain came on a 1200? Changing soon...curious if i need a 9k or 10k. Thanks
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Service manual calls for a DID 50ZV2.

    Any of the 530 chains will be fine.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    My 03 came with a ZVM, and it's tensile is 10,370lbs


    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDog View Post
    Anybody know what strength chain came on a 1200? Changing soon...curious if i need a 9k or 10k. Thanks
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    I've got EK ZVX in chrome or gold, 110 links with a rivet type master for $154.65 plus shipping. Also EK ZZZ@11,000lb., prestretched, chrome or gold with a rivet type master link, $174.71. Priority mail shipping, two day delivery with tracking, medium flat rate box, $12.41. PM me if you're interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Ditner View Post
    I've got EK ZVX in chrome or gold, 110 links with a rivet type master for $154.65 plus shipping. Also EK ZZZ@11,000lb., prestretched, chrome or gold with a rivet type master link, $174.71. Priority mail shipping, two day delivery with tracking, medium flat rate box, $12.41. PM me if you're interested.
    Hi Dave, what is the TS on the ZVX?
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDog View Post
    Hi Dave, what is the TS on the ZVX?

    10,560

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    Go for the ZZZ............it is a sweet chain..............
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDog View Post
    Hi Dave, what is the TS on the ZVX?
    Tensile on the ZVX is 10,560lbs. EK says it's good for up to 1400 ccs. Their top of the line ZZZ comes in @11,000 lbs is prestretched and is slightly lighter than the ZVX (lightening holes in the sideplates)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Ditner View Post
    Tensile on the ZVX is 10,560lbs. EK says it's good for up to 1400 ccs. Their top of the line ZZZ comes in @11,000 lbs is prestretched and is slightly lighter than the ZVX (lightening holes in the sideplates)
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    Dave its strong enough for what you wanted to do w that whole doorknob scenerio. Youll be fine. Just remember the safety word is "orange".
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Jethro View Post
    Go for the ZZZ............it is a sweet chain..............
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrashoks View Post
    Dave its strong enough for what you wanted to do w that whole doorknob scenerio. Youll be fine. Just remember the safety word is "orange".
    I hope so, the last time the code word was not discernible over my high pitch screaming and the chain burned so bad until it snapped causing the door knob to impale my $%#.....maybe i should go with the ZZZ
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Anyone have a Renthal SRS Road chain on. I have a D.I.D. VX (I think, been a few years) and am looking for replacement. Renthal is a little cheaper than D.I.D. but like the saying goes, you get what you pay for, I just want to make the right purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdave View Post
    Anyone have a Renthal SRS Road chain on. I have a D.I.D. VX (I think, been a few years) and am looking for replacement. Renthal is a little cheaper than D.I.D. but like the saying goes, you get what you pay for, I just want to make the right purchase.
    Thanks to all for this place of knowledge and experience.
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    I can get you an EK ZVX2, X ring, 10,560 lb tensile, 110 link in gold or chrome with a rivet type master link for $154.65 plus shipping. PM me if you're interested,
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Triple Z after all the 1224 mods.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmojoe View Post
    Triple Z after all the 1224 mods.
    That's top of the line. 11,000 lb tensile, X ring, prestretched, your choice of gold or chrome, 110 link with master, $174.71. Got that in stock as well.
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    Re: DID 50ZV2 chain

    Is the D.I.D 50ZV2 an X or O ring design?

    It's what came on my '01 1200 when I bought the bike used. Just curious for the sake of being curious.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    what do you fellas recommend for master links. clips vs screws vs peened on rivets?
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    Re: DID 50ZV2 chain

    Quote Originally Posted by BonzRexster View Post
    Is the D.I.D 50ZV2 an X or O ring design?
    50 ZV@ isn't a familiar number to me. They had a V series and a VM series, the VM being th higher tensiIe strength chain and they were both X ring.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by BonzRexster View Post
    Is the D.I.D 50ZV2 an X or O ring design?

    It's what came on my '01 1200 when I bought the bike used. Just curious for the sake of being curious.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TGHW View Post
    Oh no you didn't.....not another master link debate thread.








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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCutter View Post
    You just can't run around high on meth, armed to the teeth with zombie apocalypse weapony, tasing bitches. It's not normal.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Let's see if I can add to the confusion a little bit EK 6 different master links, SPJ slip fit clip type; SKJ press fit clip type; MLJ rivet type; SLJ screw type and PL pin type. The screw type is unique to EK, but not available on the ZZZ line. There are no clip types that EK makes for either the ZVX or ZZZ chains. The screw type master link assembles with an 8 mm wrench, no press required but is a one time use item unlike the cliip type that can be.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by hydrashoks View Post
    what do you fellas recommend for master links. clips vs screws vs peened on rivets?

    Whatever you know will stay on for any given application will work just fine.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by zrx24 View Post
    Whatever you know will stay on for any given application will work just fine.
    thanks Chris.

    My question was relative to a roadside repair, say someone shears their master link, what's the best repair? I've a chain tool kit, but would like to see if there's other easier options to have on board during a long ride.

    FWIW, i've only used peened on types.


    got it on sale $40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCutter View Post
    You just can't run around high on meth, armed to the teeth with zombie apocalypse weapony, tasing bitches. It's not normal.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    If you shear a master link while out riding you are going to more than likely have bigger problems than trying to install a new one on the side of the road. That is not really a practical thing to try to be prepared for. I don't konw of anyone that carries a chain tool onboard.



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    Re: Tensile Strength

    I was with a fella in Sept that sheared his master link on the rex. We were fortunate enough to be by a Cycle Gear, and the 12yrolds running the CG had a box of masters, which we took a handful of as they didn't have a 230 in stock. That's where we scored the chain tool like the one pic'ed and spent a few hrs in a VFW parking lot replacing. I have vivid memories of thinking that a screw or clip master might have been slightly more convenient. Anyway, it made for good storytelling.
    I like to travel with most eventualities prepared for, just wondering if a screw or clip link would take up less relative to on board tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyCutter View Post
    You just can't run around high on meth, armed to the teeth with zombie apocalypse weapony, tasing bitches. It's not normal.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by hydrashoks View Post
    I was with a fella in Sept that sheared his master link on the rex. We were fortunate enough to be by a Cycle Gear, and the 12yrolds running the CG had a box of masters, which we took a handful of as they didn't have a 230 in stock. That's where we scored the chain tool like the one pic'ed and spent a few hrs in a VFW parking lot replacing. I have vivid memories of thinking that a screw or clip master might have been slightly more convenient. Anyway, it made for good storytelling.
    I like to travel with most eventualities prepared for, just wondering if a screw or clip link would take up less relative to on board tools.
    If you've got an EK ZVX chain and you worry about stuff like that, piece of mind in the form of a screw type master link and you've got an 8 mm box wrench and a pair of pliers on board, will set your mind at complete ease for under $20.00 to your door.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Ditner View Post
    If you've got an EK ZVX chain and you worry about stuff like that, piece of mind in the form of a screw type master link and you've got an 8 mm box wrench and a pair of pliers on board, will set your mind at complete ease for under $20.00 to your door.
    try that again Dave? I missed what you're trying to explain...

    *i'll have to check to see what type of chain I have on my current rex, when I need a new one, i'll for sure go thru you.
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by hydrashoks View Post
    thanks Chris.

    My question was relative to a roadside repair, say someone shears their master link, what's the best repair? I've a chain tool kit, but would like to see if there's other easier options to have on board during a long ride.

    FWIW, i've only used peened on types.


    got it on sale $40.

    i went to the ek screw on style, and wont ever go back, if you snap a ML while on the road, there is high chance others parts will be broke that stops u from going on!!!
    you can carry the clip stlye in a pinch, but for ease of install and to be dummy proof the screw o0n is the best bang out there!!!, i have had two chains since 05, both ek w/screw on links, best $$$ and no chain tool needed
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    Re: Tensile Strength

    Quote Originally Posted by hydrashoks View Post
    try that again Dave? I missed what you're trying to explain...

    *i'll have to check to see what type of chain I have on my current rex, when I need a new one, i'll for sure go thru you.
    If you're worried about chain failure on the road, which would be a pretty damned rare event with any kind of maintinence the screw type master is your fix. The little box is comes in has all the parts to build it including a little envelope of grease. The only issue might be removing the broken link without tools. This link goes together in a couple of minutes. And as goofy as it looks, it works. I'm really old school about stuff like this. "Master links should be the rivet type." My 03 finally got to needing a chain and sprockets 3 or 4 years ago. I was gonna put an EK ZZZ on it. Cut the chain off, pulled the rear wheel, front sprocket, put on new parts, put stuff back together, went for the chain tool, NOT THERE. Then it dawned on me that I loaned it out and the guy that I loaned it too was not reachable......so, 'twas time for the screw link. Put a ZVX on and went from there What a piece of cake. The pins are longer than normal, about twice as long, the ends are threaded, and there's a groove inboard of the threads. The package contains an inner plate and pins assembly, an outer plate, 4 X rings, two small O rings, a grease packet and two washer faced nuts. Assembly is like this. You open the grease packet and dab a little bit on the inner plate at the pin faces for X ring lube, then put the X ring on the pins up against the inner plate, then lube the pins, the inner X ring surface and slide them through the links so the chain is in one piece. Lube the X rings and their contact surfaces on the chain link and install the X rings on the pins. Lube the inner surface of the outer plate and install it over the threads on the pins as far as they will freely go. Put the nuts on the pins and run them up against the outer plate. Now take the 8 mm box wrench an tighten the nuts a little at a time alternately until the resistance increases significantly. Back the nuts off and check to see if the outer plate is at the inner edge of the groove in the pin. If so, you're done tightening. If not continue until you have the outer plate at the proper position. The plate will be in contact with the inner bushing of the link and the spacing for the X ring will be right at that point. Both sides should be the same. Remove the nuts from the pins and with a pair of pliers break the pins. They will break at the outer edge of the small groove. Install the small O rings in the grooves and you're done. Mine have over 8 thousand trouble free miles on them
    Last edited by Dave Ditner; 02-17-2013 at 07:35 PM. Reason: Changed from ZZZ to ZVX to use screw link
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