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  1. #31
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxycodone View Post
    Hmm... When my '00 was in stock form, the riding position was very similar to Bobby's '01 with risers.

    I know handlebar position could be a factor. Any specs on frame changes? Is the rake different? Just my imagination?
    The frame and triple clamps are both different and have different angles.

    The part number is "5 digits - 4 digits". The 5 digit number in the picture is only the item id in the picture.

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  2. #32
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by TGHW View Post
    Also:
    Some 03's and all 04/05 fork adjusters do not have clicks/detents.
    TG
    TG my 04 Red Cali model has detents on both compression and rebound settings, black lower fork tubes. Hex heads on the preload adjusters also. I know of an 01 that doesn't have detents. Dang now I'm really confused! LOL

  3. #33
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    I think:
    The 99-2003's definately use KYB fork internals, but the '04-'05s I think use Showa internals.

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  4. #34
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Because it still must be said...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary1129 View Post
    They made a 1200

    No one tells me anything

  5. #35
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1008 View Post
    do tell. a shorter sidewall is that correct? to what effect?

    comparo pix?
    To be completely honest I do not know.
    The sidewall will be different and \I would assume shorter due to the ratio of the 170 compared to the 160.
    Also the tire will have a different profile as the 5 inch rim is at the wider end of a 160 tire where as it is in about the middle of the 170 as \i understand it.

    I do believe the single biggest reason from my limited research is that when heeled over the contact patches front to rear are more closely in line with each other and thus closer to turning the same line in the corner

    I do know that to me there is no doubt that it turns in quicker and tracks more easily with the 160 and I had no significant increase in middle of the tire wear from all the straight roads around here

    I am running a bone stock 2000 1100 motor and exhaust that makes 94 ponies on the local dyno so spinning up the rear upon corner exit has never been a concern (for me at least) and I will put on another one in the spring when it gets here It will be my third
    I run Metzeler M1's by the way and that is all I run so all of this is done on one tire brand \ymmv
    perhaps skinny triangulated tires like the Dunlops of old may not do so well
    added bonus they are a bit cheaper

    Gary 1129 was were i first got the idea and it has worked flawlessly for me
    Sorry I do not have a pic There is a small but noticable difference if you know what you are looking at but not a single zrx member around here noticed it until they were told of the swap
    hey its only a tire so give it a try just for fun
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  6. #36
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    shifter levers are different.. NOT interchangeable!


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  7. #37
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckc View Post
    Be sure to fill us in. I'll make this thread stick at the top so ya can find it next spring.
    Will do!

    Wayne, gotta say I am surprised that the comparison of the 1100 -V- 1200 and their design differences has never been posted. Good on you my friend! up!

  8. #38
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    The '04 CA carbs do not have the decelleration enrichment circuit any more.

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  9. #39
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    The standard exhausts are different, especially the can to link pipe bolt angle.

    1200 engine head sits about half an inch further forward.

    Water pump front pipe on 1100 has bracket bolted to frame, 1200 does not.

    Fuel level sender is different.

    Fuel cap is different.
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  10. #40
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    The carb springs on the 1200 are shorter and stiffer.

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  11. #41
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    The 1200 side stand has a bigger "foot" than the 1100.
    Quote Originally Posted by chrly View Post
    A lot of the fun is going out of this place at a real quick pace .

    Got a sloppy shifter? I can fix that
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  12. #42
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    The passenger footpegs are smaller on the 1200, but they are interchangable.

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  13. #43
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    A full .6 second quicker in the Q/T,More low end....After 100 run,s later .I know the difference sometimes..

  14. #44
    BadAss Hooligan
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    My 03 has color matched side covers, not black.

  15. #45
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Where has this thread been all of my life! This is NEAT! (and Truthfull) I did not know all of the differences when I bought my 2000 1100. I bought it because it was the closest to the S-1 which I raced against in the early 80's specially the Swingarm! Knowing what I know now and getting an equal deal on a 1100 or 1200 I would still get the 1100
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  16. #46
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Cans mentioned but 1100 are silver dull finish and 1200 are polished,

    bolt fixings are different, 1100 can will not fit 1200 and viceversa.

    2004 has cat in the end.

    2004 carbs have fuel shut off valves in the float bowl for emmisions with rev limiter and cat.
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  17. #47
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    actually I think a 1200 canister can be made to fit and 1100 but I forget how
    There was a thread in the how to's for a while
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  18. #48
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    KSREX - this thread isn't so much about which is BETTER, just what is different from one to the other. INVALUABLE to people such as myself who are building a bike from parts sourced from anywhere and not always exactly what was advertised.
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  19. #49
    Formerly A-Train
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Electrical connector on the end of ignition key connection.

    On gas tank underneath rear the shape is lower.

    The numbers ...1 instead of 2 after the first 1 on emblems.

  20. #50
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie Phatt View Post
    actually I think a 1200 canister can be made to fit and 1100 but I forget how
    There was a thread in the how to's for a while
    jp
    can be made to fit is a different thing, you can make 1200 clock rings fit an 1100, its a direct swop but it is still a difference, just being pedantic.

    you need to make the fixing holes oval to rotate the can!
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  21. #51
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    I dont think I saw it posted but; not all gas tanks are created equal. They are all shaped the same on the out side but there are minor differences underneath the tank. And I'm not sure all states have the same smog previsions. I have an 1100 non-California tank (no idea what state or year) on my 1200 Cali bike and I had to delete the smog canister to make it fit.

    Also the mounting holes for the fuel door is different between the 1100 & 1200. 7 bolts vs 5.

    The pet cock is the same.

  22. #52
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    will a set of 1100

  23. #53
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    The handlebar holder are different.
    The 1100 use 46012-1266 (but has been superceded to the 1200 46012-1327) and do not have the "kawasaki" mark in the center, even if the cut-out/groove for it is there.
    The 1200 use the 46012-1327 and come with the "Kawasaki" mark on it.
    You can also buy the mark , 56052-1463 and add it to your 1100.

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  24. #54
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    sorry bout that, but will a set of 1100 wheels fit on a 1200?

  25. #55
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    do rear wheels interchange between the 11 and 12?

  26. #56
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by Olita1 View Post
    sorry bout that, but will a set of 1100 wheels fit on a 1200?
    Quote Originally Posted by JB792 View Post
    do rear wheels interchange between the 11 and 12?
    front wheels will interchange but not the rear
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  27. #57
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Anyone that has run both on the street will pick the 12, hands down.

    I've heard the rear wheel offset makes the 11 a better handler, but on the street it must be indistinguishable.

    In summation, the best ZREX is a 1200 before they made the forks so they can't be revalved. Gold Valved front ends need to be experienced to be believed. 130 hp with pipe and jet kit, plus the bottom end that the inches provide, make this a no-brainer.

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  28. #58
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    i disagree, i think the 11 handles better making it a better track bike which translates to a better ride in the corners...maybe a straight street you'd pick a 12 hands down


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  29. #59
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    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by KSREX View Post
    Blaa blaa blaa blaaa blaaa blaa.....Talk about beating a dead horse!!! Jeeez!!!!! Both great bikes! If you're looking at buying a used ZRX, go with the bike that's in the best shape, lowest miles, with the best price. You'll be happy with either the 1100 or the 1200. I've ridden both, and though the 1200 is a little bit stronger in overall engine performance, it isn't that big of a difference. My 1100 with full pipe & jet kit dyno'd almost the same h.p. & torque as my friend's 1200 with slip-on & jet-kit. BFD!!!!! - KSREX
    Yeah but wait till he gets a full system! Almost is not good enough. The 1200 has over 20 bhp for only just over 100cc.
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  30. #60
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    Tallahassee, Fl

    Re: 1100 vs. 1200 differences?

    1200s have bungee hook holders on the rear shocks and the 11s don't.


 

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